Penforhire,
I just got off the phone w/Dan Lebson. He said they have order bikes that have not been presold. He recommended you give him a call direct. It sounds like if you get serious with them they will give you a similar deal but I suspect it will take some good negotiating on your part. I got 13k otd w/top box and YES, not a fantastic deal but good for California I think. Also you may want to keep in mind I got a bike that they received the $500 deposit from previous buyer that backed out.Good luck and let me know if I can help more.

Art