When I called around last year looking for a deal I had been forewarned from this site about the "extras" that magically appear when you pick up the bike. So I was only considering deals with out-the-door pricing.

I only found one local dealer that would even talk to me about a price lower than MSRP. After a little arm twisting I got $13000 OTD on an 04 ABS. When you consider California taxes and registration, it's not too bad of a deal. I got it from Redlands Honda Yamaha (SoCal). No BS, very professional.

BTW when the invoice was printed up, it stated the price of the bike was $10691! But they included "Dealer Prep and Freight" of $1070. They just backed into my OTD price with their usual charges. Oh, one more thing, get the deal in writing (trust me).